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Comment by Alexander on January 9, 2012 at 20:11

hey deeks you still interested in that rock maple? goin up tommorrow to ask him about some

Premium Member Comment by Deeks63 on January 9, 2012 at 20:04

cool - the staff in the Melbourne store were awesome - really helpful - explain to them what your doing and tell them you're on a budget.  They may only sell in square metre lots (they do when you go for something more exotic like Carbon Fibre) but hopefully $20 or $30 should see you right - give them a call first.

Comment by Darcy Sanders on January 9, 2012 at 19:57

I live on the north shore in Sydney. It is 13ks to FGI from my house so I could make a trip out of it and ride my bike there. Skating 26ks seems a bit far! And a lift is pretty unlikely. But I'll try to get there. My last question! How much would sufficient glass cost and what would it be called. Hopefully the staff know their stuff but it would help to know exactly what I want.

Premium Member Comment by Deeks63 on January 9, 2012 at 19:45

for sure Darcy - your unlikely to get too much flex from that! not sure what part of NSW you're in, but there's plenty of glass and epoxy suppliers - Steve put me onto FGI (who are in Brookvale which is a ways out of Sydney city - also know as Nuplex) who have an enormous range of reinforcing supplies and their prices on the basics are comparable to Bunnings and its waaaay better than the polyester resin.  BTW, I think your budget is spot on for a good deck - good luck.

Comment by Darcy Sanders on January 9, 2012 at 19:37

Sure thanks for all the great advice. I don't mind the extra weight to much I have a 9two5 it's pretty heavy so i'm used to it. If I was to do 5 x 3mm + bottom layer of glass from Bunnings and use the Selleys PVA would that be a pretty stiff ride for 80kg? Again thanks for spending time to answer my questions.

Premium Member Comment by Deeks63 on January 9, 2012 at 19:22

you're too modest Steve, but the decks that make the grade are first class...  I'll stop blowing smoke up your proverbial now.

500ml should be enough glue, but you do seem to fly through it once you start.

The Bunnings Diggers glass (don't get the chopped variety, go for the weave) comes in various sizes - I think 1/2 sq metre is the smallest and is plenty - the length is what I'm unsure of as you may need to overlap it some of you go that way.  Just the bottom of the deck should do.

Comment by Darcy Sanders on January 9, 2012 at 19:14

I understand what you're saying. I am budgeting the press at $40-50 and I am willing to put about $100 into the board. I can get 500ml of glue for $13 or 1L for $18 (how much do I need??) That leaves about $85 for other stuff. I might stretch a bit further but how much will some fiberglass set me back? would it be just the bottom of the board or the top and the bottom? 

Premium Member Comment by Steve on January 9, 2012 at 19:09

If your budget is tight an extra layer of ply will increase strength and stiffness but will also increase weight. Epoxy will make a stiffer joint than pva.

Another cheaper option is putting a stringer down the middle of your board. You could press 3 layers of 3mm into your concave and then add a strip say 100mm wide 2 layers thick giving you 5 layers in the middle where it counts. You also might get away with not having to do any wheel wells....

@deeks. the pile of reject decks in my workshop is laughing when you call me a master builder!!

Premium Member Comment by Deeks63 on January 9, 2012 at 18:33

I'm guessing after you've got 3x4mm or 4x3mm you've got 12 layers of veneer and any more (whilst will add strength) will be superfulous... Epoxy will add strength but PVA is strong shit if applied in a good, even coat. The only concerns I have with not glassing/reinforcing the bottom of your deck is strenght once you've sanded/ground out wheel-wells - you're making an obvious weak point by doing so that some reinforcement will help to overcome. it's all trial and error and budget does come into it, but as a master builder like Steve will atest, making your own is not as cheap as many people initially think.  I don't want to discourage you, but it's devastating to put some serious thought and effort into something that breaks the minute you give it a good "push"...!

Comment by Darcy Sanders on January 9, 2012 at 18:02

Thanks for the ideas. I am going to make some phone calls to Bunnings, Mitre10 and North Shore Timber tomorrow to try and see what they have. The waterproof level doesn't worry me too much, as you said it's only a first go. I have thought about glass but this is all on a pretty tight budget. Would I gain a similar effect if I increased the amount of layers? And would using epoxy instead of a PVA increase stiffness as well as strength?

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