ASRA - Australian Skateboard Racing Association

Hey, im in the market for a fullface and was just wondering, is there a future ban or restriction with paragliding helmets? (Charlies, vector m-4/5, icaro, etc.) Because i really dont wanna get one and not be able to use it in the future. This question doesnt just concern me but a couple of my mates. So far, its just easier access to a paragliding helmet, price and stock wise. Suggestions on what to do please. :)

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Yup, according to IGSA rulebook 2012 and Marcus at Newtons, there will be new rules put in place in saying that you have to have a helmet with with a road standard sticker on it. Check out the rule book on the IGSA website for more info.

So far it's only the triple8 and predator that will be allowed as far as I know...

Like many things the IGSA does its still just a thought bubble at this stage. What they are proposing is to ban 75% of the helmets currently being used at the moment and replace them with helmets that have enough supply to cover 2% of the market.

Its the usual American thinking of bigger is better without any consideration of weight, aerodynamics, balance, vision, usability, and availability. The IGSA are thinking they are replacing Charlys with Predators and triple 8, but when that predator breaks you will be replacing that with a motorcycle helmet.

For 10 years they have allowed helmets with no ratings whatsoever. The intelligent thing to do would be to formalize the current helmets people are using that are rated and simply ban any unrated helmets.

Thanks guys, ill just keep it safe getting a pred or triple 8 then. My mate really wants a charly to so... haha and i cant get to the igsa website, it keeps saying that its unsafe/virus shit

seems like a stupid move by the IGSA as it would rule out some of the high end helmets too like Risch yet make it completely ok for someone to rock up in a 50 dollar aldi full face

risch is in the process of getting his helmets rated, also zero gravity skate systems (formally vector) are going to have the  M-5 rated, it is currently being tested.

there will be options for the future, butyes production of these helmets is currently limited, predators sell out everytime, and I still don't feel safe in any icaro clone as they never come down far enough over the neck, yet to try the M-5 which they have extended the back.

alternatively you could just avoid IGSA races. plenty of Independent runs large events all around the world

This is just has to be a liability issue.

A scrutineer approving an unrated helmet on race day would be making a decision, entirely on his or her own initiative, without the benefit of scientific evidence to confirm that the helmet is "fit for the purpose". 

It would be a very uncomfortable position for that scrutineer to be in, if the helmet is subsequently proven to be unfit for the purpose.

A rated helmet on the other hand absolves the scrutineer of the need to make such a "fit for purpose" decision, because a reputable and approved testing laboratory has done the certification of that helmet for him or her.

The reason for requiring "road" grade helmets for an "on road" event further protects the scrutineers from making decisions that they should not ever be required to make, and puts them one step further away from being made uncomfortable.

Even a $50 helmet with a rating is better than a helmet with no rating in this light.

the original discussion was IGSA to avoid liability. The problem is its more of a liability if you specifically list a certain type of helmet fit for purpose and someone gets hurt in it.

This problem will ongoing until a DH skate helmet rating is created and used. Until then its just pointless restricting some unproven helmet ratings against other unproven helmet ratings for this specific sport.

bernie said:

This is just has to be a liability issue.

A scrutineer approving an unrated helmet on race day would be making a decision, entirely on his or her own initiative, without the benefit of scientific evidence to confirm that the helmet is "fit for the purpose". 

It would be a very uncomfortable position for that scrutineer to be in, if the helmet is subsequently proven to be unfit for the purpose.

A rated helmet on the other hand absolves the scrutineer of the need to make such a "fit for purpose" decision, because a reputable and approved testing laboratory has done the certification of that helmet for him or her.

The reason for requiring "road" grade helmets for an "on road" event further protects the scrutineers from making decisions that they should not ever be required to make, and puts them one step further away from being made uncomfortable.

Even a $50 helmet with a rating is better than a helmet with no rating in this light.

Trav,

You just pointed out the other way that lawyers can make a picinic out of this, which makes it a no win either way.

Really missing the days when we could stuff without needing insurers to keep the lawyers away.

 

There was something in the revolutionaries guide book......

That's right, first to the wall are poets and the lawyers!

 

Man, wouldnt life just be easier with like a rating for downhill skating or something? what do you guys suggest doing if i wanna do future races?

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