bushing slop
well ive noticed a few things in kookys vs sabres vs paris bushing seats with various bushings.
well, sabre bushings fit the most tightly for a barrel and they are the tallest, wheras divine barrels from the parises are a little looser in the seat ( like maby 1/2, to 1mm more slop in the kookys.
however eliminators have an amazing ammount of slop in the bushing seat....
like seriously 3 or 4mm in the kookys and a little less in the cast trucks.
i can get the tighly fastened hanger of the kookys and slide it side to side about 4mm on the baseplate, even in the parises, they have heaps of slop, like even when their really tight.
this does not feel nice when riding! i think the fact that they were realy soft only made it worse,
jimz bushigs have a little of the same problem, but no where near as severe as the elims.
didnt k-rimes design aeras around venom elims???, anyway, lots of people have elims in them, is this really a problem? did anyone else find this???
i havent tried bears, crail or munkaes, so if anyone knows about them, please do say so
well, sabre bushings fit the most tightly for a barrel and they are the tallest, wheras divine barrels from the parises are a little looser in the seat ( like maby 1/2, to 1mm more slop in the kookys.
however eliminators have an amazing ammount of slop in the bushing seat....
like seriously 3 or 4mm in the kookys and a little less in the cast trucks.
i can get the tighly fastened hanger of the kookys and slide it side to side about 4mm on the baseplate, even in the parises, they have heaps of slop, like even when their really tight.
this does not feel nice when riding! i think the fact that they were realy soft only made it worse,
jimz bushigs have a little of the same problem, but no where near as severe as the elims.
didnt k-rimes design aeras around venom elims???, anyway, lots of people have elims in them, is this really a problem? did anyone else find this???
i havent tried bears, crail or munkaes, so if anyone knows about them, please do say so
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Premium MemberPermalink Reply by Ching on -
so are you asking about aeras or kookys?
well, you gotta keep in mind that kookys weren't designed around elims. With my kooks, I first had jimz in them and they were fitting. Then I tried a elim/barrel combo, obviously the elim didn't fit as well...I found all barrel setup for my kookys work.
The bushing seat on munkae trucks are really restrictive and tight so you won't have much problems with bushing slop that's for sure. I think gilbert is running a barrel bottom/elim top combo on his right now...
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Premium MemberPermalink Reply by Matthys on -
oh, no i have kookys, im just asking about the tightness of other trucks...
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Premium MemberPermalink Reply by Jack on -
i have no idea what you mean you are a bit confusing. or maybe its just me.
"i can get the tighly fastened hanger of the kookys and slide it side to side about 4mm on the baseplate, even in the parises,"
wtf does that mean. you put elims in your kooky's. you tighten your kooky's. you can slide the hangar side to side!?!?!?!?!? how on earth does your hangar slide side to side.
i have read that kookys do have a larger spot for the kingpin to run through than normal but that shouldnt be related to your bushings. that would happen on any bushings if its to do with the kingpin hole size in the kooky hangar.
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Premium MemberPermalink Reply by Ching on -
it all comes down to the design of the truck specifically the bushing seat. Like aeras (correct me if I'm wrong), its bushing seat is not as deep as kookys. Which would make it super leany compared to the kookys if you put barrels in them. Most people ride elims in aeras because of that (for dh).
Just gotta mess around with the bushings, do a little research on the design until you find your perfect setup!
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Permalink Reply by Jezza on
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the outside edge of the bushing should mate with the edge of the bushing seat, ie they touch when the bushing is in the hanger. different bushings are different 'diameters' so they dont all meet quite right with the hanger, also not all hangers have the same bushing seat (the 'dish' where the bushing sits), so when you have different truck/bushing combos there is sometimes a gap between the edge of the bushing and the edge of the bushing seat, so the hanger can slip form side to side before they meet.
hence no it would not happen if you ran any bushing, just cause there kookys, it only happens with certain shapes/makes of bushings. From whats happening to Mattys the elims must have a smaller diameter where it meets the bushing seat, hence the slop. Unfortunately no cure, other than running sphericals, or the correct size bushing for the truck
just my longwinded 2 cents
Jack Nolan said:i have no idea what you mean you are a bit confusing. or maybe its just me.
"i can get the tighly fastened hanger of the kookys and slide it side to side about 4mm on the baseplate, even in the parises," wtf does that mean. you put elims in your kooky's. you tighten your kooky's. you can slide the hangar side to side!?!?!?!?!? how on earth does your hangar slide side to side. i have read that kookys do have a larger spot for the kingpin to run through than normal but that shouldnt be related to your bushings. that would happen on any bushings if its to do with the kingpin hole size in the kooky hangar.
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Permalink Reply by leighgriffiths on
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yep as ching said, barrels work best with kookys. elims make them feel dead. i've never liked elims, even on my new Aeras and a lot of that has to do with my weight. cos i'm a lot lighter than dudes like Kevin, I find it hard to get the fuckers to turn with big fat bushings like Elims. after throwing in different types of bushings into my new trucks, i still found the green/red venom barrels work best for my weight (70kg). it also depends on your setup and how loose you like to have your trucks, but i always found kooky's to be super nimble with that bushing setup and due to the design of the trucks they still feel super stable at speed.
but again its all personal preference and the only way you will ever know for sure is if you find yourself a bunch of bushings and do some testing.
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also play around with different washers. i decided to try cup washers on the bottom (boardside) bushings as it was feeling quite twitchy coming into fast corners. i didn't think it would help heaps, but it fixed the problem completely.
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Premium MemberPermalink Reply by Matthys on -
sikk, ive got some sabres in them atm, but im definetally gonna get myself some venoms, im 69kg
btw,
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