"Beat the Bastard" Tech Inspection.

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Premium MemberPermalink Reply by Grits on April 26, 2009 at 11:18

I know street luge is different to standup, but i have a titanium rod inside my left tibia because of the armco on this hill.
I hit the armco with the base of my foot, which exploded my left tibia. Having leathers on stopped my left leg going to mush.

Once again i know when you fall off standup, you're in a different position, but at least if you follow the rules and wear the proper safety gear you will have a better chance of surviving.

Ultimately we don't want anyone to get injured.

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Premium MemberPermalink Reply by Jacko on April 26, 2009 at 11:37

Robbo said:

Jacko said:

ok that makes thing a lot clearer. i wasnt sure if you were going to do it by "IGSA standard" or the actual IGSA Rulebook, both being entirely different things.

The IGSA rulebook and the IGSA standard are the same thing. An event organiser might allow some things to slide but they are meant to follow the IGSA rules. This became an issue last year so the rules have now been tightened for event organisers. From 2009 each IGSA event must now have an official with the specific task of making sure the IGSA rules are strictly followed. The IGSA rules from 2007 through 2009 for protective leathers are not ambiguous, they are very specific. People will always try to trim around the edges but the rules are well published and well known.

With regard to Bow bro if your leg hits a piece of armco it will slice it off.

when i say the "IGSA Standard" i meant what i have seen at races. They dont always go by the rule book and can cut some corners here and there

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Permalink Reply by Sakamoto on April 26, 2009 at 13:22

Cutting corners doesn't help anyone, especially the riders, organisers and the sport in general. By having a stable, solid set of riding/race/safety rules to follow then everyone knows where they stand when it comes to events, sponsors will want to get onboard "safe" events which means more events, and insurance premiums will stay as low as possible. But the most important thing is that riders go home at the end of the weekend in one peice, having had a blast on an excellent road, riding with some of the best riders in this country.

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Permalink Reply by Robbo on April 26, 2009 at 15:15

JudgeK said:

All i will say is it's a bit short on notice for those that don't have compliant equipment. Especially when they have spent up to $600 on airfares alone. Sourcing leathers, that both are suitable and fit, in 2 weeks is nigh on impossible.

I believe the event details were posted in January indicating IGSA tech spec mandatory on the event poster, which is at the top of this post and on the ASRA main page. The rego form that was filled out by all riders also asked you to state you have the required safety gear according to IGSA rules. Skaters are by nature an apathetic bunch that leave things to the last minute, I don't think that chasing every skater involved to see if they have read the detail and have the right protective equipment is high on the event organisers priority list. All these skaters are big boys they probably shouldn't be asking these questions 1 week before the event.

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Permalink Reply by Sakamoto on April 26, 2009 at 15:17

Everybody was given ample notice of the fact that the event was based on the "IGSA Rulebook". This fact, and the fact that Tech was going to be tighter than Newton's has been mentioned in several posts. Relevant posts have been posted on both the ASRA site, as well as the Lugeaustralia site. Two months minimum should be long enough for riders to organise themselves to make sure they have there equipment up to scratch.
All I can do is reiterate, read the Rulebook, and we'll see you in Townsville.

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Permalink Reply by Robbo on April 26, 2009 at 15:53

There is no fine print, its on the event poster I think thats close enough to shouting. Every skater also signed a rego form asking the specific question about the exact equipment they were going to use and did it comply with IGSA spec both riding equipment and safety gear, there was not fine print it was a direct question - I think thats also shouting very loud.

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Permalink Reply by Robbo on April 26, 2009 at 20:47

hahaha no mercy judge... lol

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Permalink Reply by Adrian Alderson on April 26, 2009 at 23:39

JudgeK said:

thats better a bit of humour, shall i bend over and take it like a man or is it to be Deliverance style, "boy you got a real purdy mouth, now squeal like a pig boy".

Man, were you sitting next to us in the Indian Restaurant at Newtons last year? That is how the evenings conversation started, then it went downhill for about 3 hours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Permalink Reply by dave k on April 27, 2009 at 0:36

my motocross bike just said that to me !!
double cartwheel in the dark to hole in hand saying hello are we there yet ! lol

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Permalink Reply by Ash on April 27, 2009 at 8:36

i have to say im not a big fan of wrapping tape around my helmet strap. for one, if your helmet is done up tight, its not going to be easy to wrap it around. if your at the top of the hill, in 30degree heat, wearing leathers and everything else, the last thing you would want to do is to have to stand around with your helmet on and taped up waiting for your run. also, in the event of a crash and having to have my helmet removed, i would rather whoever is picking up to to be able to quickly un clip my helmet and get it off, rather than having to un wrap tape and stuff first.

just my 2 cents, if we have to do it, ill do it, but just saying im not too keen on the idea.

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Permalink Reply by Sakamoto on April 27, 2009 at 9:46

Ash, totally understand where you're coming from, but the premise for this particular point is a crash involving an overseas rider. He was wearing a snap-lock, and came head first off his board....the vibration from the initial impact unclipped the snaplock as he did his first tumble, and as he rotated in the air his helmet came off. His un-helmeted head smashed onto the road, and caved the back of his head in. The contents of his skull were spread across the bitumen for all to see.
I don't mean to be overly graphic, guys, but this is one scenario which has occured, and we want to prevent, as much as possible, this happening to anyone attending "BtB". If your helmet had to be removed by Ambo's anyway, they would simply cut the strap and slide your helmet off, as opposed to unclipping, regardless of the type of system used.

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Permalink Reply by Robbo on April 27, 2009 at 10:32

Hey Ash if you are referring to this section


1.HELMETS: Hard shell is required. Helmets must be full-face design with a shatterproof shield or goggles. The helmet must be worn to the manufactures recommendations. The helmet strap must be worn tight and secure as designed. NO EXCEPTIONS! No snap on chin guards. No modifications allowed except to face shield. Certified helmets designed for motorcycle or motor sports use are recommended.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think this refers to clips or D-link straps but to actual snap-on chin guards such as:

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