for any one who has made/modified a board. post some pics of your press or completed boards, its all good.
also, maybe share some tips on building and where to get supplies
also, occasionally, we can have a build off from time to time...
Finally found a good source of Rice Paper and trialling Rice-paper Lams - results pretty good so far. (had to include the obligatory MACS sticker www.macs.com.au)
Just under $50 delivered from Bateau Bay in NSW - that's for a 15M x 45cm roll of the stuff (shite-loads) which means you've gotta cut it up to run it through a normal home inkjet printer. I got it off the guys at SurfBoardGraphics (http://surfboardgraphics.com/) - turned up 3 days after I ordering it online.
If you just wanna try some PM me and I'll send you a few sheets of it.
Hey guys I am about to make my first board. I'm using ASK maple and pressing it buy vac bag. I was just wondering if anyone knew where to get carbon or glass from around the Gold Coast or even Brisbane? I've been researching for ages and just cant find it. Also what types you have found work best?
Hey Adam - good luck with the pressing. I struggled with the same question a while back and Steve from Fat Pigeon put me onto FGI (aka Nuplex) - they do CF and other exotic fabrics and their epoxies are good too (at a pretty good price)
I found they only had CF in either 2 x 2 twill or plain weave (the latter will yield the strongest reinforcement) - they have all manner of Glass bi, tri and quad axial
Thanks seeks huge help! The epoxy I was thinking of trying is called techniglue apparently it is used in structural stuff. Have you had any experience with it? The only problem I thought could be it possibly cracking from torsional flex
no problems Adam - I haven't heard of it - I've used West systems epoxy and the FGI/Nuplex stuff and found Nuplex's was marginally easier to use and about half the price of West systems.
If you're using the ASK maple and enough layers, and reinforcing material you're going to get very little torsional flex (unless of course you're making a big arsed dancer that's long and wide!) If you're precise with your measures of resin and hardener, then your Epoxy will perform very well.
had a quick google of Techniglue - it's more of a structural adhesive gel than a surface reinforcing product - I'm no expert but I don't think that's what you want. the guys at Nuplex can advise... (plus, if you're going there to get fabric, it maybe make sense to get epoxy as well)
@Deeks63 broooo!! that tech slider is looking soo dope! i just finished making a hydraulic skate press so im back in production mode now! ill post some pics of the press soon, so keen to be making boards again
Also @Adam Babic, so far the best resin i have worked with was the
'West System' resins, they spread out evenly really well and have quite a lot of resistance to flex, and impacts. I also go to Playwithcarbon for my fiberglass, and carbon, they are situated right near brisbane too
A deck like this has some flex without glass 'cause it's only 7 layers - I've made some with 9 layers that have virtually no flex, but I also glass to stop torsional flex and to protect the veneer.
@Dan - nope - pretty much nothing sticks to the vinyl bag... I glass and epoxy the bottom of my decks straight in the bag as well - pops right out without any issues once the epoxy is dry - see below. You do need to clean them out occasionally with all the dried glue and shit, but it's really easy to scrape off with your fingernails.
For those of you using ASK maple
mine came stacked from top to bottom of the board in this order
face
core
cross
core
cross
core
face
did you guys use it in the same order or change it up?
I was planning on keeping this order and basically throwing in glass between the core and cross layers and above and below the centre core layer
also on the bottom
Sam Ferguson
Jun 8, 2013
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Deeks63
nar - not yet. I took it out for a quick run before I painted it and it was really sweet - just gotta grip it now.
Jun 8, 2013
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Daniel Witchey
yeww that deck looks so mad Deeks! loving the graphic! looks like a super rad freeriding board
Jun 8, 2013
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Deeks63
Cheers!
Jun 8, 2013
Sam Ferguson
Jun 14, 2013
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Deeks63
Hey Sam - I sand them out of the foam mould and then when I vacuum bag the veneer I use clamps to press in the wheel wells.
Jun 14, 2013
Sam Ferguson
Jun 14, 2013
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Deeks63
MKII of the Freeride/Speedboard combo - 8 plies Maple, Quad-Ax roadside - 37"x9.75" - no flex at all.
Jun 15, 2013
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Deeks63
Finally found a good source of Rice Paper and trialling Rice-paper Lams - results pretty good so far. (had to include the obligatory MACS sticker www.macs.com.au)
Jun 21, 2013
Sam Ferguson
That graphic looks sweet
Jun 23, 2013
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Deeks63
Thanks Sam - next graphic drying in the rare Melbourne sunshine...
Jun 24, 2013
Sam Ferguson
Jun 24, 2013
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Deeks63
no probs Sam.
Just under $50 delivered from Bateau Bay in NSW - that's for a 15M x 45cm roll of the stuff (shite-loads) which means you've gotta cut it up to run it through a normal home inkjet printer. I got it off the guys at SurfBoardGraphics (http://surfboardgraphics.com/) - turned up 3 days after I ordering it online.
If you just wanna try some PM me and I'll send you a few sheets of it.
Jun 24, 2013
Adam Babic
Hey guys I am about to make my first board. I'm using ASK maple and pressing it buy vac bag. I was just wondering if anyone knew where to get carbon or glass from around the Gold Coast or even Brisbane? I've been researching for ages and just cant find it. Also what types you have found work best?
Aug 12, 2013
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Deeks63
Hey Adam - good luck with the pressing. I struggled with the same question a while back and Steve from Fat Pigeon put me onto FGI (aka Nuplex) - they do CF and other exotic fabrics and their epoxies are good too (at a pretty good price)
I found they only had CF in either 2 x 2 twill or plain weave (the latter will yield the strongest reinforcement) - they have all manner of Glass bi, tri and quad axial
http://www.nuplexcomposites.com/australia/?q=node/6
They seem to have 3 locations in QLD...
Aug 13, 2013
Adam Babic
Aug 13, 2013
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Deeks63
no problems Adam - I haven't heard of it - I've used West systems epoxy and the FGI/Nuplex stuff and found Nuplex's was marginally easier to use and about half the price of West systems.
If you're using the ASK maple and enough layers, and reinforcing material you're going to get very little torsional flex (unless of course you're making a big arsed dancer that's long and wide!) If you're precise with your measures of resin and hardener, then your Epoxy will perform very well.
Aug 13, 2013
Premium Member
Deeks63
had a quick google of Techniglue - it's more of a structural adhesive gel than a surface reinforcing product - I'm no expert but I don't think that's what you want. the guys at Nuplex can advise... (plus, if you're going there to get fabric, it maybe make sense to get epoxy as well)
Aug 13, 2013
Adam Babic
Aug 13, 2013
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Deeks63
MKII of the Deeks Decks Rasta Tech Slider. 36.5" x 9.5" - wb 17.5" to 20"
Aug 19, 2013
Sam Ferguson
Aug 20, 2013
Adam Babic
Aug 20, 2013
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Deeks63
thanks lads - yes - happy with the outcome, but still working on the routed Wheel wells - a lot of fun to throw around!
Aug 20, 2013
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Daniel Witchey
@Deeks63 broooo!! that tech slider is looking soo dope! i just finished making a hydraulic skate press so im back in production mode now! ill post some pics of the press soon, so keen to be making boards again
Aug 21, 2013
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Daniel Witchey
Also @Adam Babic, so far the best resin i have worked with was the
'West System' resins, they spread out evenly really well and have quite a lot of resistance to flex, and impacts. I also go to Playwithcarbon for my fiberglass, and carbon, they are situated right near brisbane too
Aug 21, 2013
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Deeks63
Witch-Doctor! Hydraulic eh..?! by all means post away.
Aug 21, 2013
Mudjimba
How much did you end up spending on your Hydraulic press Whitchey?
Aug 21, 2013
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Deeks63
Another DH/FR design - The "Bone Head 37"
Aug 31, 2013
Sam Ferguson
Aug 31, 2013
Sam Ferguson
Aug 31, 2013
Sam Ferguson
Aug 31, 2013
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Deeks63
@Sam - I use Rock Maple.
Aug 31, 2013
Sam Ferguson
Aug 31, 2013
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Deeks63
A deck like this has some flex without glass 'cause it's only 7 layers - I've made some with 9 layers that have virtually no flex, but I also glass to stop torsional flex and to protect the veneer.
Aug 31, 2013
Mudjimba
Sweet board Deeks!
Aug 31, 2013
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Deeks63
Cheers Mudjimba!
Sep 2, 2013
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Daniel Witchey
Sep 2, 2013
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Daniel Witchey
Latest board that came out of the new press
Sep 2, 2013
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Deeks63
first class Witch Doctor! really nice!
Sep 2, 2013
Dan Hawkins
just saw you guys talking about ASK maple, and was just wondering if you could help me out
Sep 7, 2013
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Deeks63
sure Dan - what are you after...?
Sep 7, 2013
Dan Hawkins
oh, I was just wondering what ASK maple is?
Sep 7, 2013
Adam Babic
Hey Dan
The 'ASK' is an abbreviation of Australian Skateboard Kits
http://www.australianskateboardkits.com/#!uncut-canadian-maple-veneer
It's just a Canadian maple supplier that ships to Aus.
Sep 7, 2013
Dan Hawkins
oh ok, yeah i've checked them out. probably ordering some very soon
Sep 8, 2013
Dan Hawkins
and @deeks63, what type of pressing do you do? e.g. hydraulic, vac bag or good old clamps and wood?
Sep 8, 2013
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Deeks63
Hi Dan - I use a Roarockit vacuum bag
Sep 8, 2013
Dan Hawkins
And when you put your wood in, do you have to wrap it in something so that when the glue seeps out, it doesn't stick to the bag?
Sep 10, 2013
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Deeks63
@Dan - nope - pretty much nothing sticks to the vinyl bag... I glass and epoxy the bottom of my decks straight in the bag as well - pops right out without any issues once the epoxy is dry - see below. You do need to clean them out occasionally with all the dried glue and shit, but it's really easy to scrape off with your fingernails.
Sep 10, 2013
Adam Babic
mine came stacked from top to bottom of the board in this order
face
core
cross
core
cross
core
face
did you guys use it in the same order or change it up?
I was planning on keeping this order and basically throwing in glass between the core and cross layers and above and below the centre core layer
also on the bottom
Sep 13, 2013
Dan Hawkins
sorry to ask so many questions, but about how long do the vac bags last and where do you get your foam for your mold from?
Sep 14, 2013