Yeah Craig was saying that some slalomers run the front truck higher so that when going down a hill they simulate standing on a flatter surface in relation the the road grad.
Craig hooked himself up with some slalomers on ISSA. I guess he goes to them now of all his info. Haven't had contact with him for a couple of months now.
One of the more informative messages from craig for anyone still interested. Said he got sick of ASRA (don't know why) and removed himself from all the groups.
oh btw...i meant the ISSA...it's called slalom-something-or-other...the one u posted on about ur randal back truck....saw ur name on some posts.
became a member...asked some questions & steve p private msgd me out of the blue & then don cambpell did too...a bit starstruck i was.
as far as angles go, well steve p has Extreme angles, like 72 degrees on foxy & 37 on homer.....& he has back around 10 degree & hard bushings.
basically he said to try to get back as straight/hard as possible & make front as loose & angled as possible...but not so much u forfeit turning ability........depends on ur style of skating.
also, depends on steepness of track.............he said all the guys at maryhill (etc) are running angles like these, some a bit higher some lower ...but always pretty damn extreme compared to what i envisaged.
frank papps runs his front so loose u can wobble the deck & it flops everywhere.....his kingpin nut is hand tightened it's so loose.
his back is super stifff........it's all about power at back & turn at front..........i actually do this already but i wasn't aware how h'core the pros go about it.
the pros run hourglassed bushings these days (evidently).........green reflex short cones hourglassed...one @ top & one @ bottom.......change one for a pink for super GS / steep downhill.
also he made me happy saying he's been using homer mainly these days ....even for super GS.
he said frank runs a homer front & back now & actually runs the back past straight! .... he said it's very bizarre but he kills it so it does work.
also said they go for super hard wheels w' same duro front & back.
instead of using a soft back wheel for grip they angle the truck accordingly to avoid wiping out.........he said to just go thru all the angles 1 degree at a time......so i'm gonna get a set of yellow zigz & orange ones to check it out.
also , on his stealth, he doesn't use wedges on back & no risers on front, he just uses shockpads to get it even & low as possible.
he does use a wedge on one of his decks but only like 4/5 degree hard wedges...gotta get that khiro kit
said to trust the decks & trucks coz they're designed to avoid bite.
steve p said he copies kowalski,cbark,pappas,frank b, etc & then works from there...........he humble enough to admit he's always learning & happy to share the info' he's gathered (i try not to push it, it's hard coz he's real nice)
anyways that's as much as i can think off top of my head....i re-checked his msgs to be sure i had info right so read into it what u will....took me lots of sucking-up to get that info, keep it safe bruh...lol
p.s. i have NO wisdom, i'm just a parrot telling u what a pro told me...........i'm just keen to learn & respect ppl who take the time to help me understand what the best guys do to get them on that podium.
it should be fine. I'll check in with the event people. they will be running some "try to skate" stuff for punters down that pitch. maybe they'll wanna do some slalom as well. could be a good opportunity to get some people rolling. i'll give you an update when i know anything
hey guys i'm looking to find a new home for my skennett front truck that deserves to get some use rather than sitting in my wardrobe. Offer up if you are interested, it is silver, mint condition and comes with the brass spacers so you can space it out a bit from 101mm. It isn't a spherical but if that is your thing there are plenty of folks on this forum who can do that for you
anyone have a slalom deck there looking to set up?
im selling everything but my deck: fresh lemon/lime zigs, 106mm RTS/RTX trackers, and enough wedges, bushings and long hardware to get you set up. everythings in good as new condition..
looking to sell all for $110, pm me if your interested
Weather looks like it might be okay. Last day before we plunge into post daylight savings.
Jack and I have about 60 cones and I don't mind setting a course to suit even the newest of riders. The trick I've found is to just start further down the line and work your way up the hill as you get used to it.
Forgot to add that I prefer riding a different section than the usual big GS straight.
I've been riding just opposite that bottom section of the loop junction.
I also highlighted a great parking spot to save the long trudge back up the hill at days end. Its on Eton St. but you have to come in off Merton St. South and follow the signs to the Bee Garden.
60 degrees is about right for a front slalom truck, but Randal hangers aren't great for slalom. For a cheap starter setup I'd recommend a Bennett for the front truck and a Tracker RT/S 106 for the rear truck. Throw in a standard 8 deg Khiro wedge front and rear, both with the skinny side facing forward, and away you go.
Alright alright that was an intense couple of days of downhill, really made me want to skate more! We need a couple of sessions this Autumn/winter before event kick off later in the year.
I can do either or both Sundays. I have the same timer as you now Marek. Works well. I got some mini tripods on ebay too. Super cheap. I bought bulk to save shipping cost. 2 with your name on em. ;)
Hey guys thought I would post up here, sadly I am looking for a new home for my slalom rig due to lack of time to use it and mounting uni equipment bills. One off aqua colour pavel roadster, with matching aqua radikal claw front (Fitz tech custom gumball rad bushing included) and blue airflow rear (pretty sure it is the narrower 95mm?) with spacers. Even has a blue psd adjustable footstop from the UK to complete the theme! looking for $550 but for $700 I will throw in 30 brand spanking new seismic cones (15 orange/15 white) and my camo decent hardware park bag, spare wedges and odd bushings including a clear and a blue rad bushing. PM for pics or details, prefer Melbourne buyers so I don't have to worry about shipping. Sad to see it go, I have kept it in good condition and it deserves to be ridden rather than collect dust under my bed
We all have bills and some times we do what we need to to get them paid , But Please Dont sell mate, you will have time to skate, and i can tell you now, your going to have bills for the rest of your life, and there going to be a lot more then the $700 you may get for your rig.Best of luck hope all tuns out well.
WTS moded DH randal rear slalom truck. Adjustable 90-110-125mm and polished pivot. Has spherical JB welded in. 35* baseplate. Comes with 98a and 95a khiros modded to accept the spherical. $65
http://www.skateboardracing.org.au/events/realshearboardslide?rsvpC...
This is a while off but the plan is to have a little gs comp associated with it.
If we pull it Off it will be totally legit. It's in association with the Caloundra music festival.
The idea of gs v's tight is the groms on regular longboards can still rock it out.
Building start ramps, so might be able to run a
Oops...
Underground ditch slalom the day after or the day before.
Will be hitting up crew for ideas. Re cone place ment for gs etc.
Thinking two at a time head to head to remove the need for timers.
Early stages at this point but hopefully something like the race at the billy cart thing only with more notice;^)
Good one Adam.
The Upwey billy cart thing was well received.
With the hill we had We did not need start ramps or timer, as it was really a display event.
Make sure that you get in with the council as quick as you can.
You will need to think about safe run-out area, and slippery pavement risks.
At Upwey the cone spacing was about 7 metres + or - 1 metre, and long boarders and short boarders could run it. Make sure you have a plastic class, little kids love it, and their parents dig it also. It really helps with growing the sport.
When I said well received, it went on to a further event opportunity with youth services, and talk of closing a road for a much bigger event.
It is also a great opportunity to promote ASRA.
We have council approval for a road closure from 9 am till 3 pm. We ate gunna start the day with slalom, have a little slide jam in the middle. And then finals at the end.
Fairly mellow slope, nice road surface.
I building two identical starter ramps -1200 high with plans I got from one of bugs posts from way back.
Side by side head ti head racing.
Repercharge format, so at least two race runs.
Going to spread the cones out a little bit to let the groms use their longboards, so kinda giant slalom.
It's October 1st
It's in conjunction with the Caloundra music festival. So if you want to come try to get tickets to the music festival aswell.
Sun,music, sand, slide and Slalom.
So when is (if there will be) the next Church of Slalom or slalom event in Sydney. Had so much fun back in May, keen for another shot at slalom. If not is there anybody round Sydney who wants to help me get my wriggle on someday?
Cents
Yeah Craig was saying that some slalomers run the front truck higher so that when going down a hill they simulate standing on a flatter surface in relation the the road grad.
Mar 1, 2012
Cents
Craig hooked himself up with some slalomers on ISSA. I guess he goes to them now of all his info. Haven't had contact with him for a couple of months now.
Mar 1, 2012
Premium Member
Ben Mod
He always seemed a bit paranoid that he was annoying people with long posts, never heard anyone complain though.
One suggestion for location is the bike path next to the freeway in Naremburn. Under cover too so perfect for this awesome weather we've had.
Mar 2, 2012
Cents
One of the more informative messages from craig for anyone still interested. Said he got sick of ASRA (don't know why) and removed himself from all the groups.
oh btw...i meant the ISSA...it's called slalom-something-or-other...the one u posted on about ur randal back truck....saw ur name on some posts.
Mar 2, 2012
ASRA Admin
bernie
Hey Mick, I think that Mountain Straight might just have room for 101 cones.....
you up for a bit of chalking & wiggling??
...$1 per run so winner can buy extra beers!
Mar 2, 2012
ASRA Admin
bernie
Thought so!
Lets make 101 cones happen on Mountain Straight!
Haggy, how about a Presidential blessing????
Mar 2, 2012
Premium Member
Fitz
Just about to session Sutho bike track with my bro. Very sunny and hopefully dry up soon. 0415684089
Mar 4, 2012
Premium Member
haggy
Hey bernie,
it should be fine. I'll check in with the event people. they will be running some "try to skate" stuff for punters down that pitch. maybe they'll wanna do some slalom as well. could be a good opportunity to get some people rolling. i'll give you an update when i know anything
Mar 4, 2012
Premium Member
Fitz
And we all thought Pavels were expensive......
Tellum'is dreamin!
Mar 5, 2012
Bozac
hey guys i'm looking to find a new home for my skennett front truck that deserves to get some use rather than sitting in my wardrobe. Offer up if you are interested, it is silver, mint condition and comes with the brass spacers so you can space it out a bit from 101mm. It isn't a spherical but if that is your thing there are plenty of folks on this forum who can do that for you
Mar 7, 2012
Mark Gorman
Hey Bozac Still got the Skennet $45 and its mine
Mar 10, 2012
Premium Member
Jack Glenn
anyone have a slalom deck there looking to set up?
im selling everything but my deck: fresh lemon/lime zigs, 106mm RTS/RTX trackers, and enough wedges, bushings and long hardware to get you set up. everythings in good as new condition..
looking to sell all for $110, pm me if your interested
Mar 11, 2012
Bozac
sorry mark i have someone interested in the truck but if it doesn't work out I will let you know
Mar 11, 2012
Premium Member
Fitz
Who's keen for a slalom sesh at Sutho this sat?
Weather looks like it might be okay. Last day before we plunge into post daylight savings.
Jack and I have about 60 cones and I don't mind setting a course to suit even the newest of riders. The trick I've found is to just start further down the line and work your way up the hill as you get used to it.
Mar 29, 2012
Premium Member
Fitz
Forgot to add that I prefer riding a different section than the usual big GS straight.
I've been riding just opposite that bottom section of the loop junction.
I also highlighted a great parking spot to save the long trudge back up the hill at days end. Its on Eton St. but you have to come in off Merton St. South and follow the signs to the Bee Garden.
Mar 29, 2012
Premium Member
Fitz
Perfect day for slalom in the sun today.
We're doing it all again tomoz, same time (don't forget to wind your clocks back).
Hopefully it will be just as nice.
Cya's there.
Mar 31, 2012
shane strahan
hey guys i need a good setup for salom? i've already got otang inheats.
and if i was gonna make a home made salom board, what would be some features that would make it good for salom?
Apr 16, 2012
ASRA Admin
Bugs
Something around 9-10 inches wide, with a wheelbase of around 19-22 inches (inner truck holes to inner truck holes), and quite stiff.
That's the important stuff. Once you've got that done you can consider various concave shapes and kicktails.
Apr 16, 2012
shane strahan
also some 150mm trucks ? i see that all salom riders use those
Apr 17, 2012
ASRA Admin
Bugs
Shane, 150mm trucks are very wide for slalom. The Tracker RTS/X are 106mm, and Bennetts are 110mm - those are about the right width.
Apr 17, 2012
shane strahan
okay thanks for your awesome help man, would 60 degree randal baseplates be a dumb idea?
Apr 17, 2012
ASRA Admin
Bugs
60 degrees is about right for a front slalom truck, but Randal hangers aren't great for slalom. For a cheap starter setup I'd recommend a Bennett for the front truck and a Tracker RT/S 106 for the rear truck. Throw in a standard 8 deg Khiro wedge front and rear, both with the skinny side facing forward, and away you go.
Apr 17, 2012
shane strahan
alright man thanks for your help
Apr 18, 2012
Premium Member
Marek
Alright alright that was an intense couple of days of downhill, really made me want to skate more! We need a couple of sessions this Autumn/winter before event kick off later in the year.
Allawah in the next 2 or 3 weeks anyone?
May 1, 2012
Premium Member
Fitz
Very keen!
May 1, 2012
Premium Member
Marek
May 1, 2012
Premium Member
Fitz
I can do either or both Sundays. I have the same timer as you now Marek. Works well. I got some mini tripods on ebay too. Super cheap. I bought bulk to save shipping cost. 2 with your name on em. ;)
May 1, 2012
Premium Member
Marek
Ok Lets call it for Allawah for Sunday the 13th of May 1pm till whenever (tripods sound cool Fitz ta!) I'll put up an event.
May 2, 2012
Mark Gorman
Im in
Cheers :)
May 2, 2012
Mark Gorman
Anyone got a Bennett Skennett or good front end slalom truck, for sale for a TS setup ,, can swap for aTS 85mm Tracker Dart, fantastic rear
May 2, 2012
Premium Member
Fitz
Local hybrid slalom session at Sutho this sunday. All welcome.
Follow this thread if you're interested in getting updates on future ride days.
May 6, 2012
Bozac
Hey guys thought I would post up here, sadly I am looking for a new home for my slalom rig due to lack of time to use it and mounting uni equipment bills. One off aqua colour pavel roadster, with matching aqua radikal claw front (Fitz tech custom gumball rad bushing included) and blue airflow rear (pretty sure it is the narrower 95mm?) with spacers. Even has a blue psd adjustable footstop from the UK to complete the theme! looking for $550 but for $700 I will throw in 30 brand spanking new seismic cones (15 orange/15 white) and my camo decent hardware park bag, spare wedges and odd bushings including a clear and a blue rad bushing. PM for pics or details, prefer Melbourne buyers so I don't have to worry about shipping. Sad to see it go, I have kept it in good condition and it deserves to be ridden rather than collect dust under my bed
May 29, 2012
Bozac
apparently the seismic cones are worth $8.09 each on boardshop haha good luck shifting them at double the hopkin price
May 29, 2012
Mark Gorman
Hey Bozac
We all have bills and some times we do what we need to to get them paid , But Please Dont sell mate, you will have time to skate, and i can tell you now, your going to have bills for the rest of your life, and there going to be a lot more then the $700 you may get for your rig.Best of luck hope all tuns out well.
Cheers
Mark
May 29, 2012
Bozac
cheers Mark, i figure when I get the time I will re-invest in a new setup but for now I could do with the cash
May 29, 2012
Cents
Is anyone selling split duro 70mm wheels?
Jun 4, 2012
Cents
WTS Louis Ricard very good condition $100
Jun 13, 2012
Cents
WTS moded DH randal rear slalom truck. Adjustable 90-110-125mm and polished pivot. Has spherical JB welded in. 35* baseplate. Comes with 98a and 95a khiros modded to accept the spherical. $65
Jun 13, 2012
Bozac
looking to upgrade Cents? I reckon a roadster with rad front/airflow rear would be a killer combo *hint hint*
Jun 14, 2012
Cents
Can't afford a roadster. That rear airflow and your wheels are another story though ;)
Jun 14, 2012
Evie Carey
Its PC's 50th and my sister and I are putting on a slalom race to celebrate! Get your wiggle on on July 29th on the Central Coast.
ASRA SLALOM POINTS!
http://www.skateboardracing.org.au/events/pc-s-fast-50
Jun 16, 2012
Premium Member
Adam
This is a while off but the plan is to have a little gs comp associated with it.
If we pull it Off it will be totally legit. It's in association with the Caloundra music festival.
The idea of gs v's tight is the groms on regular longboards can still rock it out.
Building start ramps, so might be able to run a
Jun 20, 2012
Premium Member
Adam
Underground ditch slalom the day after or the day before.
Will be hitting up crew for ideas. Re cone place ment for gs etc.
Thinking two at a time head to head to remove the need for timers.
Early stages at this point but hopefully something like the race at the billy cart thing only with more notice;^)
Jun 20, 2012
Premium Member
Fitz
If you haven't already, talk to PC about slalom ramp design spec/drawings.
He builds the best ramps ever!
Jun 20, 2012
ASRA Admin
bernie
The Upwey billy cart thing was well received.
With the hill we had We did not need start ramps or timer, as it was really a display event.
Make sure that you get in with the council as quick as you can.
You will need to think about safe run-out area, and slippery pavement risks.
At Upwey the cone spacing was about 7 metres + or - 1 metre, and long boarders and short boarders could run it. Make sure you have a plastic class, little kids love it, and their parents dig it also. It really helps with growing the sport.
Jun 21, 2012
ASRA Admin
bernie
It is also a great opportunity to promote ASRA.
Jun 21, 2012
Premium Member
Adam
Fairly mellow slope, nice road surface.
I building two identical starter ramps -1200 high with plans I got from one of bugs posts from way back.
Side by side head ti head racing.
Repercharge format, so at least two race runs.
Going to spread the cones out a little bit to let the groms use their longboards, so kinda giant slalom.
It's October 1st
It's in conjunction with the Caloundra music festival. So if you want to come try to get tickets to the music festival aswell.
Sun,music, sand, slide and Slalom.
Jul 8, 2012
Premium Member
Adam
Jul 8, 2012
Kiwi Alex
So when is (if there will be) the next Church of Slalom or slalom event in Sydney. Had so much fun back in May, keen for another shot at slalom. If not is there anybody round Sydney who wants to help me get my wriggle on someday?
Jul 21, 2012
Mark Gorman
Next time im up in Syd i will let you know, We could go to Sutherland,
Also check out PC;s fast 50 Slalom next weekend Central Coast
And Dulwich Hill Snake Run Slalom in a few weeks Sydney
Jul 21, 2012