for any one who has made/modified a board. post some pics of your press or completed boards, its all good.
also, maybe share some tips on building and where to get supplies
also, occasionally, we can have a build off from time to time...
guys on the fish use hot wire cutters, if you search the board builders forum there you should come up with something, otherwise my reconing would be to get some pour foam, cos it sticks, i think, , and then just sand or rasp away till you get your shape.
no, the foam has to be quite solid, as to still withstand heavy torsional and shearing forces (twisting and sliding),
the idea of a foamie is that the top and bottom comp layers provide the tensile and compressive forces, tensile on the bottom and compressive on the top. Carbon fibre and fibre glass as themselves are exceedingly strong in tension, though extremely poor in compression, hence the epoxy element, which is the other way round. The foam provides the torsional strength, separates the two comp layers, and prevents the two layers form simply shearing when you step on them (ie snapping)
back on topic, youll want something like a high molecular density aviation grade foam, some hobby shops sell it for making model areoplane wings. The thicker the better, then youll have to carve it out using a hot wire. Make sure you make the foam layer really thick, as the further apart the comp layers are the stonger the board
Hey Dylan stop umming and start reading. Read this thread from the start. There is lots of good info. Go to the silverfish board building forum and read all the sticky threads. Read it all. Good luck
@Matthys you asked for help and got it when you started don't be nasty, i just did a little bit of back tracking and around page 17 of this thread i gave you a blow by blow of how you could build a press if i had been a nasty prick i could have dribbled about mdf, no more gaps, and sand but i tried to be helpful. and now your making boards. But your very forgetful, you asked dozens of questions and we all helped in good faith.
@dylan, what steve says. All 25 pages.
sorry dylan, i was just being sarcastic, i and adam reminded me that i was just like this not too long ago,
so as an apology ill send you a couple of the details...
ok iv read the whole thread now i have a few questions im planing on making a dropthough deck with a w concave and i would like it to be stiff.(like a dropthru avenger)
1) what are the best woods to use and thicknesses
2)how many sheets will i need
3)is it better to use epoxy or water proof pva glue to hold the ply together
well, if you look on the bottom of your page, you should get 1 & 3, however, if your using 1.6mm veneer, 8 0r 9 is usually reasonably stiff, however maby a bit more if your doing a dropthrough without fiberglass. whereas with 3mm or 4mm, four pieces are usually strong enough, i recently made a dropthrough with wcave, ( siiikkk) and i used 4 layers of 4mm marine ply.
mk im doing pretty well with designs and stuff my main worry is how do i test if it will be storng enough and things and iv read and watched videos and some people say use epoxy some say use wood glue which one holds better
I'm pretty sure I saw Aquadhere in stock at Blackwoods.
I picked up some Selley's Multipurpose KNEAD IT (polymer repair system) to reshape/rebuild/repair some old boards.....
Has anyone used this and perhaps can please share their opionion on it and/or an opinion on repairing old boards (one's with dents and chips in them)?
I've used Knead It on a board; the stuff lasted longer than the board did (so you're good for your first week :)) and didnt have any problems though being the centre of flex and I couldn't notice any difference in the already shoddy ride, so id say give it a shot, as the worst that could happen is the it pops out and you can use something else.
virgin to but not clueless on board building. ive been reading stuff on silverfish. anyone use 2 part aerodux? making a longboard for woodwork and my school has that glue
@Matthys - where do you get your pacific maple? how does it hold up?
muahahahahaha
about to make the debut of STROOTH LONGBOARDS , a short wheelbase topmount, and by short i mean 32.5 inches....
with a more agressive sort of a tub/toecutter concave, something like the fullbag boards.......but more agressive of course
@ Sufyan. No, so long as you apply the right pressure and let the glue cure, ie press hard and leave it in for longer than pack says, just to be sure ;)
, usually it doesnt flex back mate....
however the 3 layers of 4mm will probably have a rather saggy flex, this is what ive seen with marine ply, better off using 4 and going stiff. however, experimentation is the best way of finding what you like
Marcus M
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Andrew Jenkins
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Matthys
soooooo sweeeeeet
Jul 15, 2010
Michael English
and glueing it... i made a w cave for my glyde drop and its pimp... but it was a pretty rough cut and shoegoo made the foam warp. any ideas?
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Matthys
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but, where do you get pour foam????? :):):)
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no, the foam has to be quite solid, as to still withstand heavy torsional and shearing forces (twisting and sliding),
the idea of a foamie is that the top and bottom comp layers provide the tensile and compressive forces, tensile on the bottom and compressive on the top. Carbon fibre and fibre glass as themselves are exceedingly strong in tension, though extremely poor in compression, hence the epoxy element, which is the other way round. The foam provides the torsional strength, separates the two comp layers, and prevents the two layers form simply shearing when you step on them (ie snapping)
back on topic, youll want something like a high molecular density aviation grade foam, some hobby shops sell it for making model areoplane wings. The thicker the better, then youll have to carve it out using a hot wire. Make sure you make the foam layer really thick, as the further apart the comp layers are the stonger the board
Aug 9, 2010
Dylan Carter
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Matthys
and youll need some mdf, some selleys no-more-gaps, and a whole lot of sand
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Steve
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Adam
@dylan, what steve says. All 25 pages.
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Matthys
so as an apology ill send you a couple of the details...
Aug 10, 2010
Dylan Carter
Aug 10, 2010
Dylan Carter
1) what are the best woods to use and thicknesses
2)how many sheets will i need
3)is it better to use epoxy or water proof pva glue to hold the ply together
Aug 10, 2010
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Matthys
Aug 10, 2010
Dylan Carter
Aug 12, 2010
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Adam
Aug 12, 2010
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Matthys
and my friend has been riding a board i made for yonks
Aug 12, 2010
Daniel Martin
I picked up some Selley's Multipurpose KNEAD IT (polymer repair system) to reshape/rebuild/repair some old boards.....
Has anyone used this and perhaps can please share their opionion on it and/or an opinion on repairing old boards (one's with dents and chips in them)?
Aug 14, 2010
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Matthys
Aug 14, 2010
Marcus M
Aug 14, 2010
Daniel Martin
@Matthys -cool, thanks :-)
Aug 15, 2010
Sufyan Ghazali
virgin to but not clueless on board building. ive been reading stuff on silverfish. anyone use 2 part aerodux? making a longboard for woodwork and my school has that glue
@Matthys - where do you get your pacific maple? how does it hold up?
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Matthys
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Matthys
btw, tell a little more about this aerodux, i havent heard about it before........
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Matthys
about to make the debut of STROOTH LONGBOARDS , a short wheelbase topmount, and by short i mean 32.5 inches....
with a more agressive sort of a tub/toecutter concave, something like the fullbag boards.......but more agressive of course
Aug 15, 2010
Sufyan Ghazali
about aerodux. its a 2 part glue. im pretty sure the guy at toothless used it on his boards. apparently its aircraft standard
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Sufyan Ghazali
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Jezza
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Matthys
however the 3 layers of 4mm will probably have a rather saggy flex, this is what ive seen with marine ply, better off using 4 and going stiff. however, experimentation is the best way of finding what you like
Aug 17, 2010
Sufyan Ghazali
Aug 17, 2010
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Matthys
Aug 17, 2010
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just took it out of the press. about 2cm concave like i said. haha, you were right, it didnt flex back but thats ok. cant wait to cut it on thursday
Aug 17, 2010
Sufyan Ghazali
Aug 22, 2010