Slalom Porn or Ripoff? - ASRA - Australian Skateboard Racing Association2024-03-28T22:23:29Zhttp://www.skateboardracing.org.au/forum/topics/slalom-porn-or-ripoff?commentId=2144162%3AComment%3A789503&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHey fitz
used the wedge riser…tag:www.skateboardracing.org.au,2013-05-22:2144162:Comment:7902152013-05-22T07:48:01.792ZDave Mhttp://www.skateboardracing.org.au/profile/DaveMiller
<p>Hey fitz</p>
<p>used the wedge riser to keep the adjustable base plate level.</p>
<p>not really working as a riser just a wedge. the downfall of these is that they are very high with the extra height of the adjustable base plate.</p>
<p>Rides really nice and Scotty is flying on it.</p>
<p>Hey fitz</p>
<p>used the wedge riser to keep the adjustable base plate level.</p>
<p>not really working as a riser just a wedge. the downfall of these is that they are very high with the extra height of the adjustable base plate.</p>
<p>Rides really nice and Scotty is flying on it.</p> This is the way Dave gave it…tag:www.skateboardracing.org.au,2013-05-12:2144162:Comment:7895032013-05-12T11:34:31.891ZScotty Taylorhttp://www.skateboardracing.org.au/profile/ScottyTaylor
<p>This is the way Dave gave it to me, it came with a thicker riser of some sort but Dave put this in to run the base plate flat,if you ran without the wedge riser you would have the kingpin facing back (front truck faces forward) and not be able to get the angle like this which reduces the turn in the truck. It would be like the front one then, super turny, see pic.</p>
<p>This is the way Dave gave it to me, it came with a thicker riser of some sort but Dave put this in to run the base plate flat,if you ran without the wedge riser you would have the kingpin facing back (front truck faces forward) and not be able to get the angle like this which reduces the turn in the truck. It would be like the front one then, super turny, see pic.</p> Hmm.
Interesting how you stil…tag:www.skateboardracing.org.au,2013-05-12:2144162:Comment:7893182013-05-12T10:46:37.396ZFitzhttp://www.skateboardracing.org.au/profile/Fitz
<p>Hmm.</p>
<p>Interesting how you still use a wedge riser.</p>
<p>Are you able to get the angle you want without it, by just using a tall flat riser. That way you keep your deck bolts the same length and they don't need to clamp up at a funny angle.</p>
<p>Hmm.</p>
<p>Interesting how you still use a wedge riser.</p>
<p>Are you able to get the angle you want without it, by just using a tall flat riser. That way you keep your deck bolts the same length and they don't need to clamp up at a funny angle.</p> Bump. They are very good, I b…tag:www.skateboardracing.org.au,2013-05-12:2144162:Comment:7894142013-05-12T10:03:03.427ZScotty Taylorhttp://www.skateboardracing.org.au/profile/ScottyTaylor
<p>Bump. They are very good, I bought Dave M's rig and had some good runs on it today, Dave also had a couple of runs to see how it was. Very different to his rig, but still fast. I just adjusted them slightly again to see how little turn I can get in the back before it slips. When I had a red hot one on Dave's rig I got the back to slip, the offset GOG truck he has fell less turny than the CZ and he also felt mine was more sticky in the back. I still felt it was not tracking as straight as an…</p>
<p>Bump. They are very good, I bought Dave M's rig and had some good runs on it today, Dave also had a couple of runs to see how it was. Very different to his rig, but still fast. I just adjusted them slightly again to see how little turn I can get in the back before it slips. When I had a red hot one on Dave's rig I got the back to slip, the offset GOG truck he has fell less turny than the CZ and he also felt mine was more sticky in the back. I still felt it was not tracking as straight as an offset truck so I've gone one notch on the adjustment, had to move the holding bolt to the back position to get the kingpin angle just a tad more back facing than it was. This is about as far back as you can go for the back truck I reckon, otherwise you're not getting contact through the whole arch.</p> so we all owe royalties to th…tag:www.skateboardracing.org.au,2009-10-30:2144162:Comment:1028892009-10-30T21:32:49.475ZOwenhttp://www.skateboardracing.org.au/profile/Owen
so we all owe royalties to the guys who invented roller skates then
so we all owe royalties to the guys who invented roller skates then they look so good.tag:www.skateboardracing.org.au,2009-10-30:2144162:Comment:1028402009-10-30T10:37:18.515ZJay Capellarihttp://www.skateboardracing.org.au/profile/JayCapellari
they look so good.
they look so good. They may not deliberately of…tag:www.skateboardracing.org.au,2009-10-30:2144162:Comment:1027332009-10-30T01:42:56.211ZDave Mhttp://www.skateboardracing.org.au/profile/DaveMiller
They may not deliberately of copied them. (I don’t know enough to comment on this but).<br />
From what I have seen all trucks have copied from one design or another and simply attempted to improve upon them. (The evolution of design I suppose).<br />
Most of you guys have probably been thinking up ideas in your head to make trucks better, and have a picture of what you would like. I certainly have and whist looking around have found trucks very similar to what I pictured that I would want.<br />
Until someone…
They may not deliberately of copied them. (I don’t know enough to comment on this but).<br />
From what I have seen all trucks have copied from one design or another and simply attempted to improve upon them. (The evolution of design I suppose).<br />
Most of you guys have probably been thinking up ideas in your head to make trucks better, and have a picture of what you would like. I certainly have and whist looking around have found trucks very similar to what I pictured that I would want.<br />
Until someone make a radical change in design, his is not likely to happen whist they are based on the lean steer model, all anyone is doing is ripping off the original. Both are vital.
A wheelbase s…tag:www.skateboardracing.org.au,2009-10-30:2144162:Comment:1027252009-10-30T00:37:01.623ZSteveChttp://www.skateboardracing.org.au/profile/SteveC
Both are vital.<br />
A wheelbase should fit the rider's size, stance and style - it will then feel right underfoot and get better weight ratios.<br />
The board should then be given truck-geometry that gives the board turn to suit it's intended discipline.<br />
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While I do believe GOG were the first to release such an elegant solution to a variable pivot-axis<br />
They were definately not the ones to come up with the idea - Their solution while excellent has an observable pedigree.<br />
<br />
Gog themselves came under…
Both are vital.<br />
A wheelbase should fit the rider's size, stance and style - it will then feel right underfoot and get better weight ratios.<br />
The board should then be given truck-geometry that gives the board turn to suit it's intended discipline.<br />
<br />
While I do believe GOG were the first to release such an elegant solution to a variable pivot-axis<br />
They were definately not the ones to come up with the idea - Their solution while excellent has an observable pedigree.<br />
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Gog themselves came under criticism for "rippin off radikal"...<br />
Radikal owes randal/etc<br />
Randal wasn't the first perpendicular, neither was Gullwing.<br />
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It's evolution baby. I reckon if you can adjust th…tag:www.skateboardracing.org.au,2009-10-29:2144162:Comment:1027182009-10-29T23:15:57.140ZBugshttp://www.skateboardracing.org.au/profile/bugs
I reckon if you can adjust the angle of your trucks you don't need to adjust the length of your wheelbase. Both adjustments achieve the same thing, but adjusting the truck angle has the advantage of being able to change the ratio of steering between front and rear.
I reckon if you can adjust the angle of your trucks you don't need to adjust the length of your wheelbase. Both adjustments achieve the same thing, but adjusting the truck angle has the advantage of being able to change the ratio of steering between front and rear. Fake products is a huge probl…tag:www.skateboardracing.org.au,2009-10-29:2144162:Comment:1027152009-10-29T22:49:32.952ZMarekhttp://www.skateboardracing.org.au/profile/MarkKeller
Fake products is a huge problem worldwide and a symptom of globalization. At least they don't seem to be trying to pass them off as GOGs. I'm more concerned about fake pharmaceuticals and airliner parts than skateboard trucks.<br />
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Original or not the rail idea is good. I am lazy and have not yet experimented with wheelbase much, this would make it easy. These guy put it on the boards <a href="http://www.ettsexett.com/content/trucks.asp">http://www.ettsexett.com/content/trucks.asp</a><br />
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How hard…
Fake products is a huge problem worldwide and a symptom of globalization. At least they don't seem to be trying to pass them off as GOGs. I'm more concerned about fake pharmaceuticals and airliner parts than skateboard trucks.<br />
<br />
Original or not the rail idea is good. I am lazy and have not yet experimented with wheelbase much, this would make it easy. These guy put it on the boards <a href="http://www.ettsexett.com/content/trucks.asp">http://www.ettsexett.com/content/trucks.asp</a><br />
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How hard would it be to make some kind of CNCed riser that allowed any truck on any board to have the wheelbase altered more easily?