CRASH HELMETS standards ??

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Permalink Reply by Steven Sheely on December 16, 2009 at 5:38

After reading the article Bugs so kindly posted (WOW) and all the other info, i can saftly say,

-A Heaver helmet puts more strain on the neck.
-A softer lined helmet will decrees the G's decreasing the bang to the brain.
-That just because you are travelling 80kmh+ doesn’t mean your going to hit your head that hard, it's downward force that does the damage.
-if we put or selves in the same category as motorcycles then most head impacts are on flat surfaces. Although we are closer to the ground so wont fly as high when we come off. (Unless your Nick hitting the hey bails or steve dong back flips!)
-A Persons Age and physical being will have a factor in the damage done by hitting your head. As well as other injuries that you may incur.

So I guess its up to the individual to make the call on which helmet to use, the more you know the better decision you can make. But in the end it also comes down to a bit of luck because as we all know shit happens. And more often then not somthing is better then nothing.

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ASRA AdminPermalink Reply by Robbo on December 16, 2009 at 6:29

Hey Gilbert the Bell drop has no MTB ratings just a simple ASTM DH bicycle rating. Lots of helmets use MTB styles of injection molded polystyrene including normal bicycle, all paragliding and some skid lids like the SCBS. The ASTM rating does not require helmets to be full-face so the jaw area does not come under similar testing as a MTB helmet and is not tested for frontal impacts below the forehead. The level of impact testing in the ASTM standard is greater but only look at horizontal impact so hitting your head at an angle in not looked at in the standard.

Hopefully these predator helmets go for a higher standard than the EN 1385 standard that the rest of their helmets are as it is no higher safety than a skid lid. Personally I think the Paragliding standard is about right for impact in DH skateboarding. They just need to increase the requirements for the chin strap as I have seen too many of these things just snap off.

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Permalink Reply by speedy canuck on December 16, 2009 at 6:56

Until there is a helmet designed specificly for dh sk8ng, any helmet is good. and while some may be better than others at protecting your melon from impacts, its up to you to choose a helmet that you feel safe in whether its light and offers a good field of view or heavy and impact rated. Cuz lets face it if you feel safe it helps your mental game which directly affects your sk8ng. Personally I'll take light weight, the idea of my head having as little addded momentum as possible makes me feel better, and after crashing at over 80kph i'm gonna stick with it.

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Permalink Reply by Hop on December 16, 2009 at 6:57

Technically there is no speed limit for skateboards on roads, the law states that we can only skate on roads with a 50km speed limit, and no double white lines. As a skateboard is classified as a recreational toy, and not a vehicle, it does not have to obey the speed limit, it can go faster than 50km. I do not think there is a law in which a skateboarder can be fined for speeding. Happy to be re corrected on that point.

Fitz said:

making a helmet that's rated to high speeds when it's not legal to do those speeds on public roads.

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Permalink Reply by Sean on December 16, 2009 at 11:29

I'm with Hop on this, I don't think the legality is an issue as far as helmet making is concerned. Besides, there's plenty of legitimate races around the world now where it is legal to go at whatever speed and other countries laws are different to ours. Take the example of car makers, its not legal to go 300km/h, but its legal to sell cars which go that fast.

Hop said:

Technically there is no speed limit for skateboards on roads, the law states that we can only skate on roads with a 50km speed limit, and no double white lines. As a skateboard is classified as a recreational toy, and not a vehicle, it does not have to obey the speed limit, it can go faster than 50km. I do not think there is a law in which a skateboarder can be fined for speeding. Happy to be re corrected on that point.

Fitz said:

making a helmet that's rated to high speeds when it's not legal to do those speeds on public roads.

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Permalink Reply by Typhoon on December 23, 2009 at 18:34

Done my own homework on this and found that if racing on a public rd even if its closed for the event aust standard helmets must be used for insurance[3rd party and event] purposes and to garantee ones self free from litigation etc Im not sure if its the case in other states but it applies in SA .I know that if you hit a concrete wall on a sk8board or a moto at 80kph you wanna have a aust std helmet on not a toy that looks like a helmet.In the racegame we have a saying "A $2 helmet for a $2 head" Its about saftey.Check out Protecs bucket lid The sk8 helmet is so flimsy you can make the forehead touch the rear easy as but the bmx/bike version is ridgid with the compression foam inner shell maybe 50 grams heavier and an aust std sticker.Its your head,use it

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Premium MemberPermalink Reply by Jacko on December 23, 2009 at 18:42

if you hit a concrete wall on a skateboard or a moto at 80k's it doesnt matter what your wearing your still getting fucked up

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Permalink Reply by Typhoon on December 23, 2009 at 18:50

Too true Jacko but ya gotta look nice for the funeral.lol

Jacko said:

if you hit a concrete wall on a skateboard or a moto at 80k's it doesnt matter what your wearing your still getting fucked up

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ASRA AdminPermalink Reply by Robbo on December 24, 2009 at 22:43

3rd party and event insurance does not cover injury to riders and therefore has no specific requirement for any helmet standards. Event insurance is done under federal laws with the only requirements from states and councils being the dollar amount of coverage be that 10 or 20m ect. Australian Standards has no opinion on DH skateboard helmets and therefore provides no real guidance. The Tour down Under occurs on SA roads yet allows the use of $2 polystyrene cups to be worn on heads while the helmets worn by DH skateboarders are significantly more expansive and adhere to greater European standards than a simple bicycle helmet. As you could imagine with bicycles the Australian Standards board does not recommend wearing a Snell or DOT rated helmet for riding a bicycle as this creates and unacceptable risk of head and neck injury when used for this purpose. Australian Standards does not provide guidance for DH skateboard but if they did you would imagine given the similar speed as road bicycle and as its on the same surface the guidance would be similar. DH skateboarders already take greater caution and use a greater amount of safety gear and to a higher standard than bicycle clubs.

Typhoon said:

Done my own homework on this and found that if racing on a public rd even if its closed for the event aust standard helmets must be used for insurance[3rd party and event] purposes and to garantee ones self free from litigation etc Im not sure if its the case in other states but it applies in SA .I know that if you hit a concrete wall on a sk8board or a moto at 80kph you wanna have a aust std helmet on not a toy that looks like a helmet.In the racegame we have a saying "A $2 helmet for a $2 head" Its about saftey.Check out Protecs bucket lid The sk8 helmet is so flimsy you can make the forehead touch the rear easy as but the bmx/bike version is ridgid with the compression foam inner shell maybe 50 grams heavier and an aust std sticker.Its your head,use it

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